P. Ramlee’s BaZi chart 比南利
Actor, director and singer · Malaysia's film icon · born 22 March 1929, George Town, Penang, Malaysia · date source: Wikipedia
No birth time has been published. The date fixes three of the four pillars; the fourth is one of twelve. Below, everything the date settles is computed, and everything that turns on the hour is cast all twelve ways — without picking one on anyone’s behalf.
The three pillars the date fixes
Year
Hurting Officer
己 Yin Earth
巳 Snake
Month
Rob Wealth
丁 Yin Fire
卯 Rabbit
Day
Day Master
丙 Yang Fire
寅 Tiger
Hour
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one of twelve — see below
Each pillar is two characters: a stem on top (an element, yin or yang) and a branch below (one of the twelve zodiac animals). The day stem is the day master — the person. The label above each other stem is its ten god (Shi Shen, 十神): what that element is to the day master.
Each animal also hides stems of its own, strongest first: the Snake hides Yang Fire (丙, Friend), Yang Metal (庚, Indirect Wealth), Yang Earth (戊, Eating God); the Rabbit hides Yin Wood (乙, Direct Resource); the Tiger hides Yang Wood (甲, Indirect Resource), Yang Fire (丙, Friend), Yang Earth (戊, Eating God).
- Hurting Officer (Shang Guan, 伤官)
- What you produce, opposite polarity. Output with an edge on it. The name means it injures the Direct Officer (正官), which is why the tradition reads it as talent that does not sit well with authority.
- Friend (Bi Jian, 比肩)
- Same element, same polarity as you. A peer: someone standing where you stand, competing for the same thing and equally able to share the load.
- Indirect Wealth (Pian Cai, 偏财)
- What you control, same polarity. Wealth that comes sideways rather than by salary — the uneven kind.
- Eating God (Shi Shen, 食神)
- What you produce, same polarity. Output that comes easily: making, feeding, expressing, without strain.
- Rob Wealth (Jie Cai, 劫财)
- Same element, opposite polarity. A peer who takes rather than shares — the tradition reads it as what draws on your resources through people close to you.
- Direct Resource (Zheng Yin, 正印)
- What produces you, opposite polarity. Straightforward support: what teaches, shelters and backs you.
- Indirect Resource (Pian Yin, 偏印)
- What produces you, same polarity. Support of an indirect kind — the tradition treats it as nourishment that can also crowd out the Eating God (食神).
Day master
What the classic Di Tian Sui (滴天髓) says of this stem — the original, then in English
丙火猛烈,欺霜侮雪。能煅庚金,逢辛反怯。土众成慈。水猖显节,虎马犬乡,甲来成灭。
Yang Fire (丙) is fierce and violent, bullying frost and insulting snow. It can smelt Yang Metal (庚), yet meeting Yin Metal (辛) it turns timid. With Earth in numbers it becomes kind; with Water rampant it shows its constancy. In the country of tiger, horse and dog, let Yang Wood (甲) come and it is destroyed.
Born in a Rabbit month (Mao, 卯), when Wood rules the season. In that season Yang Fire is rising (Xiang, 相): the season produces it. (One of five seasonal states, Wang Xiang Xiu Qiu Si, 旺相休囚死, after the San Ming Tong Hui, 三命通會, book 2.)
Elements in the six known characters
None of the six is Metal, Water. The hour pillar’s two characters may supply it or may not — that depends on the hour. Hidden stems are not counted here.
All twelve hours, cast one by one
In all twelve hours the Yang Fire day master reads strong. Whatever the hour, the support-and-restrain method favours Earth, Metal, Water — the date alone settles it.
| Hour | Solar time | Hour pillar | Its ten god | Three tests | Strength | Favoured |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rat (子) | 00–01 | 戊子Earth Rat | Eating God (食神) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Ox (丑) | 01–03 | 己丑Earth Ox | Hurting Officer (伤官) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Tiger (寅) | 03–05 | 庚寅Metal Tiger | Indirect Wealth (偏财) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Rabbit (卯) | 05–07 | 辛卯Metal Rabbit | Direct Wealth (正财) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Dragon (辰) | 07–09 | 壬辰Water Dragon | Seven Killings (七杀) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Snake (巳) | 09–11 | 癸巳Water Snake | Direct Officer (正官) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Horse (午) | 11–13 | 甲午Wood Horse | Indirect Resource (偏印) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Goat (未) | 13–15 | 乙未Wood Goat | Direct Resource (正印) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Monkey (申) | 15–17 | 丙申Fire Monkey | Friend (比肩) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Rooster (酉) | 17–19 | 丁酉Fire Rooster | Rob Wealth (劫财) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Dog (戌) | 19–21 | 戊戌Earth Dog | Eating God (食神) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
| Pig (亥) | 21–23 | 己亥Earth Pig | Hurting Officer (伤官) | out of season rooted backed | strong | Earth, Metal, Water |
Each row is exactly what the full calculator would say for a birth in that hour. Strength comes from three tests: in season (De Ling, 得令) — born in the season of the day master’s own element; rooted (De Di, 得地) — the same element hidden in a branch; backed (De Shi, 得势) — as much support around it as drain. Two of three reads strong. The favoured elements come from support and restrain (Fu Yi, 扶抑): a strong day master wants draining, a weak one wants support. There are three other methods for the useful element — climate (Tiao Hou, 调候), bridging (Tong Guan, 通關) and disease and cure (Bing Yao, 病藥) — each from its own text; see the useful god page. Hours are solar time at the birthplace, so a clock time needs correcting first; and a birth after 23:00 falls in the late Rat hour, where the two schools disagree about whether the day has turned.
P. Ramlee’s bone weight (Cheng Gu, 称骨)
Lunar date: day 12 of the 2nd month, Earth Snake year (己巳年二月十二). Its weights: year 0.5 liang, month 0.7 liang, day 1.7 liang — 2.9 liang before the hour. Over the twelve hours that makes 3.5 liang to 4.5 liang.
Bone weighing is a folk almanac sum over the calendar positions of the year, month, day and hour — not the elements, and not the chart above. How heavy is heavy? The tables and the spread ›
And yours?
You have your own birth time, so your chart needs no table of twelve — all four pillars, corrected to true solar time with the timezone actually in force where and when you were born.
About this page
This page computes; it does not interpret. The birth date is public and its source is linked; the birth time is not, so the hour pillar and everything that depends on it are set out all twelve ways.
Nothing here claims that anyone is who they are because of a chart, and nothing here forecasts years, health or lifespan for anyone living.